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I know how to process all those questions your mind’s answering. It’s asking you tons of questions. Why are you here? It’s cold. It’s miserable. Go home to your wife. Get a good meal. Do this, do that. If you cannot answer those questions that your mind is throwing at you at rapid fucking pace, you will quit. A theorist will not tell you that. A practitioner will say, yes it will do that, but I will give you the answers to every fucking question your mind is giving you in hell. If you have the answers, you stay. You stay
right where you’re at, and you graduate, and you succeed. No answers, you always quit. [Vishen] Now it sounds, it sounds like there’s almost two minds within you. [David] Yes. [Vishen] There’s the normal human mind. - That we all have. Which is trying to avoid pain, right, and then there’s this other Goggins character [David] Yes. [Vishen] Who’s a fucking badass, who overrides that natural human mind. Now where’s that coming from? Is it your athletic training? Is it the military? Is it your fucked-up childhood? Where did that ability of yours come from? [David] So I always had this voice in my head, from a young kid. We all have a voice. I’m a spiritual guy. I don’t go to church, but I believe in something much bigger than David Goggins. And I believe that voice is God. And a lot of us listen to it, a lot of us don’t. And that voice in me was saying to myself, you’re better than this. But I didn’t want to go there. Didn’t want to deal with that. Didn’t want to answer those questions right now. Wasn’t ready for that. And there are two Davids. There are two, there’s David Goggins and there’s Goggins. And everybody has, most of us have this one person. And that one person guides us in the direction of least resistance. So we never grow. In building Goggins, I had to have someone pull me from that person that quits when times get hard. I had to form another person alongside that voice, because that voice wasn’t strong enough for me. I had to formulate someone that had the reality, the real reality, of at the other end of this, there’s a big reward. But you cannot see that unless you push past all of that. And David Goggins didn’t have that. So I realized that I want to see what’s on the other side of this fucking mountain. How can I do that? So I was sitting back, I couldn’t just read a book. All these theories weren’t going to make me do that. Like I said, once again, it’s easy to read a book and get confidence. But once you’re in hell, that confidence is gone, because now it’s you and you. So I had to build me up. I had to be my own person that had all the answers to all these questions, because I didn’t have them. David Goggins didn’t have them. All I had was, oh my God, this is getting bad. When I was growing up they called me nigger. That’s, no, I’m not good enough. Oh, this isn’t, when I was raised, my dad beat the hell out of me, he said I wasn’t going to be anybody. That’s where I used to go. When times get hard, it’s called surface training. It’s called surface training. My last two years in the military, they have this program called BUD/S Prep. A lot of guys weren’t getting through Navy SEALs training, so they designed a program to get you ready for Navy SEAL training. So, I was called upon to go there for my last two years in the military before I retired. And we were training these fucking hybrids, guys that could fucking run, and fucking jump, and swim fast as shit. They were smoking the hell out
of all the shit that prepared you for Navy SEAL training. Hybrids, but the numbers never changed. The same numbers were the, so I went back to my head, and I said, what’s going on here? We were training bigger, stronger, faster quitters. Why is that? Because so many people are afraid to go to the one spot that truly changes your life. [Vishen] And what spot is that? [David] It’s not this. It’s this. We weren’t training this. We were training this, the pushups, the pull-ups, the swimming. We weren’t training mentality. We weren’t getting to the root cause of the quitter. The root cause of the quitter isn’t that you can’t do 100 fucking pushups. You can train anybody to do that. The root cause of the quitter is when you get in hell you can’t process it. It’s too much to process, because your mind starts going back to the real reality of, like, I’m not ready. I’m not good enough. It’s not trained. So I started training this, realizing that the only thing that makes me quit is not the muscle fatigue. It’s the mental fatigue that makes me quit everything in life.
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